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#101 trugs26
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I just realized that this is Nintendo's 3rd version of the 3DS and THERE'S STILL NO SECOND JOYSTICK EVEN AFTER PRODUCING 2 ADDONS FOR IT!

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Give it up. That'll obviously break up the market too dramatically. Wait 'til next gen and it might happen.

Otherwise, get a PSV.Ā 

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#102 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]What about those 3DS games that really utilized the 3D? Super Mario 3D land? And ummm....wait...lemme think....a bunch of eshop games whore out the 3D as well.charizard1605
No 3DS game NEEDS the 3D, so it's not a bad idea to excise it. But dat name

They should have called it the NINTENDO 3D-LESS-S
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#103 Zaibach
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more like the 2BS

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#104 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I just realized that this is Nintendo's 3rd version of the 3DS and THERE'S STILL NO SECOND JOYSTICK EVEN AFTER PRODUCING 2 ADDONS FOR IT!

LegatoSkyheart
Because two analogs aren't f*cking needed for the 3DS
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#105 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Yup. The micro was ****ing smexy.Ā Bread_or_Decide
F*** yeah, cool people had Gameboy Micros. :P

This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh.

And this is the kid who was jelly of the other kids who had the micros.
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#106 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]What about those 3DS games that really utilized the 3D? Super Mario 3D land? And ummm....wait...lemme think....a bunch of eshop games whore out the 3D as well.Bread_or_Decide
No 3DS game NEEDS the 3D, so it's not a bad idea to excise it. But dat name

They should have called it the NINTENDO 3D-LESS-S

Still a better name than Xbox O- I mean 2DS.
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#107 Bread_or_Decide
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more like the 2BS

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#108 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I just realized that this is Nintendo's 3rd version of the 3DS and THERE'S STILL NO SECOND JOYSTICK EVEN AFTER PRODUCING 2 ADDONS FOR IT!

charizard1605
Because two analogs aren't f*cking needed for the 3DS

I beg to disagree.
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#109 WilliamRLBaker
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Well I called it a non-3d varation would be released and at under 150.

I couldnt be happier the two reasons I wouldnt touch the 3ds are now a non issue. 150+ pricetag and shitty hurt my eyes doesnt work nausea inducin pseudo 3d.

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#110 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]What about those 3DS games that really utilized the 3D? Super Mario 3D land? And ummm....wait...lemme think....a bunch of eshop games whore out the 3D as well.Jonwh18

Nah 3D is just a gimick it didn't really matter. I usually turned it off when playing seriously anyway. Plus it hurts your eye after awhile. I completely support removing the 3D and boosting the battery life, but no clamshel was a dumb idea.Ā 

I use it most of the time I play. It's a cool effect.
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#111 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] F*** yeah, cool people had Gameboy Micros. :P

This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh.

And this is the kid who was jelly of the other kids who had the micros.

Nah this kid had his gameboy advance or SP or whatever was out at the time. And he laughed at the micro because it was stupid.
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#112 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Yup. The micro was ****ing smexy.Ā 

Bread_or_Decide

F*** yeah, cool people had Gameboy Micros. :P

This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh.

Really? Because I think the 2DS is pretty damn stupid....

The micro was amazing. It barely bigger then a GBA cart. It was SOOOO easy to throw into your pocket and walk out the door.Ā 

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#113 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh. Bread_or_Decide
And this is the kid who was jelly of the other kids who had the micros.

Nah this kid had his gameboy advance or SP or whatever was out at the time. And he laughed at the micro because it was stupid.

like BB said, jelly. :cool:

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]What about those 3DS games that really utilized the 3D? Super Mario 3D land? And ummm....wait...lemme think....a bunch of eshop games whore out the 3D as well.PurpleMan5000

Nah 3D is just a gimick it didn't really matter. I usually turned it off when playing seriously anyway. Plus it hurts your eye after awhile. I completely support removing the 3D and boosting the battery life, but no clamshel was a dumb idea.Ā 

I use it most of the time I play. It's a cool effect.

Same here I use it all the time unless I'm doing something else while I play like surfing the internet I turn the 3D off since it is hard to focus on the game and surfing the internet.

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#115 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] F*** yeah, cool people had Gameboy Micros. :PJonwh18

This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh.

Really? Because I think the 2DS is pretty damn stupid....

The micro was amazing. It barely bigger then a GBA cart. It was SOOOO easy to throw into your pocket and walk out the door.Ā 

It was also very easy for me to throw into the trash.
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#116 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]What about those 3DS games that really utilized the 3D? Super Mario 3D land? And ummm....wait...lemme think....a bunch of eshop games whore out the 3D as well.PurpleMan5000

Nah 3D is just a gimick it didn't really matter. I usually turned it off when playing seriously anyway. Plus it hurts your eye after awhile. I completely support removing the 3D and boosting the battery life, but no clamshel was a dumb idea.Ā 

I use it most of the time I play. It's a cool effect.

hurts my eyes and the extra battery drain isn't worth the effect.Ā 

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#117 lilnazar
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Even the design of it is horrible, I mean what the heck is that?

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#118 Chutebox
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That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

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#119 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] This is why Nintendo never has to try hard. Sigh. Bread_or_Decide

Really? Because I think the 2DS is pretty damn stupid....

The micro was amazing. It barely bigger then a GBA cart. It was SOOOO easy to throw into your pocket and walk out the door.Ā 

It was also very easy for me to throw into the trash.

obviously your a hater. go bitch to someone who cares.Ā 

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#120 tagyhag
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At least it has new functions.

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#121 DaBrainz
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While I think the 3d is neat, I rarely play with it on for more than 5 minutes. I hope they make a 2ds xL. I would buy that one for a $50 price cut..
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I just realized that this is Nintendo's 3rd version of the 3DS and THERE'S STILL NO SECOND JOYSTICK EVEN AFTER PRODUCING 2 ADDONS FOR IT!

freedomfreak
Because two analogs aren't f*cking needed for the 3DS

I beg to disagree.

The system was designed with one analog sticks. games for the system are designed for one analog stick. Making any edition of the system have two analogs out of the box would fragment the user base so much, it's not even funny, unless you assume everyone would upgrade (and many would just be pissed, and wouldn't).
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#123 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I just realized that this is Nintendo's 3rd version of the 3DS and THERE'S STILL NO SECOND JOYSTICK EVEN AFTER PRODUCING 2 ADDONS FOR IT!

trugs26



Give it up. That'll obviously break up the market too dramatically. Wait 'til next gen and it might happen.

Otherwise, get a PSV.Ā 

have a PSVita and I even have a 2nd analog for my 3DS.

I'm just concerned for those who would want to play games that need that sucker.

Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts are hell without that thing.

Because two analogs aren't f*cking needed for the 3DScharizard1605

Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

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#124 PhazonBlazer
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It looks so awkward to hold...

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#125 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] And this is the kid who was jelly of the other kids who had the micros. Jonwh18

Nah this kid had his gameboy advance or SP or whatever was out at the time. And he laughed at the micro because it was stupid.

like BB said, jelly. :cool:

Dat true pocket size. :cool: just magnificent. The SP was great too, we have it to thank for the DS, and it could play GBC, which was really cool.
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#126 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

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I've played Metal Gear. I've played Resident Evil. I've played Monster Hunter. Except for Metal Gear, not a single one of them made a compelling case for double analog sticks; that's a grand total of one game, two if we throw in Kingdom Hearts as well. If people want a second analog stick, the option exists. Why should Nintendo fragment the userbase even more? All of which detracts from the fact that this thing should not exist :|
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#127 TheShadowLord07
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well atleast it won't get scratch like the og 3ds and the xl.

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#128 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The system was designed with one analog sticks. games for the system are designed for one analog stick. Making any edition of the system have two analogs out of the box would fragment the user base so much, it's not even funny, unless you assume everyone would upgrade (and many would just be pissed, and wouldn't).

My point is not about the alienation of the fanbase. My point is that the 3DS would've been better off having dual analogs. And the games being "designed" for the 3DS' one analog stick approach are merely a compromise. Uprising, Revelation, MH3, Liberation Maiden would all have been better off being played with a 2nd analog stick. Hell, any game that gives you control over the camera is better played with a 2nd analog stick.
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#129 rjdofu
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BURN IT WITH FIRE!!!!
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#130 bbkkristian
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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

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Funny you say that. I didn't think it needed it. It would have done better with it, of course. But I do remember the original KH didn't use it either until kh2
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#131 Jonwh18
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well atleast it won't get scratch like the og 3ds and the xl.

TheShadowLord07

nooooo now your screen will instead. much much better. :P

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#132 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

charizard1605

I've played Metal Gear. I've played Resident Evil. I've played Monster Hunter. Except for Metal Gear, not a single one of them made a compelling case for double analog sticks; that's a grand total of one game, two if we throw in Kingdom Hearts as well. If people want a second analog stick, the option exists. Why should Nintendo fragment the userbase even more? All of which detracts from the fact that this thing should not exist :|

The Option does not exsit for 2DS owners when it comes out and I doubt there ever will be one.

This was the first chance Nintendo had to have a 3DS with 2 sticks in it and they blew it, and yes,

Resident Evil doesn't need the stick (it plays better without it).

Monster Hunter doesn't need it (but it plays better with it).

Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts that thing is vital.

I'm concerned by future 2DS owners who want to play those games that's all.

BTW does everyone know there's a 3DS Mini too?

3ds-mini.png

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The system was designed with one analog sticks. games for the system are designed for one analog stick. Making any edition of the system have two analogs out of the box would fragment the user base so much, it's not even funny, unless you assume everyone would upgrade (and many would just be pissed, and wouldn't).

My point is not about the alienation of the fanbase. My point is that the 3DS would've been better off having dual analogs. And the games being "designed" for the 3DS' one analog stick approach are merely a compromise. Uprising, Revelation, MH3, Liberation Maiden would all have been better off being played with a 2nd analog stick. Hell, any game that gives you control over the camera is better played with a 2nd analog stick.

Uprising would NOT be better with a double analog stick method. An analog stick could not have duplicated the speed that the touch screen gives that game. And sure, you have a point with the other games, but that's the thing, there's no point asking for a second analog stick now, because no game would be designed around it to begin with, games would HAVE to be designed for the lowest common denominator i.e. one analog stick. Ergo, the 3DS doesn't need a second analog stick, simply because all games would STILL have to be designed with one stick in mind I hope I'm being clear :P
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And are two screens really that necessary? They could've at least remove one screen so it wouldn't look this ugly. I don't see the point in having a screen for some touch features. Just do like Vita.

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#135 XanderZane
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i hate that it doesn't fold up. I'd get the larger 3DS over this 2D crap. I have an extra 3DS that I will give to my daughter once she gets older. Nintendo is just losing it. I understand they wanted a lower price model, but why didn't they just drop the price on the 3DS to $150? Better yet, get rid of the regular 3DS and drop the larger 3DS to $150.

Now they are doing a price cut on the Wii U of $50. It's still too expensive to me.

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#136 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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And are two screens really that necessary? They could've at least remove one screen so it wouldn't look this ugly. I don't see the point in having a screen for some touch features. Just do like Vita.

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Have you... have you ever played a 3DS or any 3DS game?
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#137 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

LegatoSkyheart

I've played Metal Gear. I've played Resident Evil. I've played Monster Hunter. Except for Metal Gear, not a single one of them made a compelling case for double analog sticks; that's a grand total of one game, two if we throw in Kingdom Hearts as well. If people want a second analog stick, the option exists. Why should Nintendo fragment the userbase even more? All of which detracts from the fact that this thing should not exist :|

The Option does not exsit for 2DS owners when it comes out and I doubt there ever will be one.

This was the first chance Nintendo had to have a 3DS with 2 sticks in it and they blew it, and yes,

Resident Evil doesn't need the stick (it plays better without it).

Monster Hunter doesn't need it (but it plays better with it).

Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts that thing is vital.

I'm concerned by future 2DS owners who want to play those games that's all.

BTW does everyone know there's a 3DS Mini too?

3ds-mini.png

I like the fake Mini design better than this 2ds design
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#138 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The system was designed with one analog sticks. games for the system are designed for one analog stick. Making any edition of the system have two analogs out of the box would fragment the user base so much, it's not even funny, unless you assume everyone would upgrade (and many would just be pissed, and wouldn't).

My point is not about the alienation of the fanbase. My point is that the 3DS would've been better off having dual analogs. And the games being "designed" for the 3DS' one analog stick approach are merely a compromise. Uprising, Revelation, MH3, Liberation Maiden would all have been better off being played with a 2nd analog stick. Hell, any game that gives you control over the camera is better played with a 2nd analog stick.

It's all too late at this point, the 3DS has already had a large install base, and there's no point talking what it should be and should not be. It's all done. I do hope Nintendo smarten the hell up and make another analog stick for their next handheld though..
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#139 Jonwh18
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And are two screens really that necessary? They could've at least remove one screen so it wouldn't look this ugly. I don't see the point in having a screen for some touch features. Just do like Vita.

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#140 Seabas989
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Looks awful but whatever it's for the kids. :P

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

LegatoSkyheart

I've played Metal Gear. I've played Resident Evil. I've played Monster Hunter. Except for Metal Gear, not a single one of them made a compelling case for double analog sticks; that's a grand total of one game, two if we throw in Kingdom Hearts as well. If people want a second analog stick, the option exists. Why should Nintendo fragment the userbase even more? All of which detracts from the fact that this thing should not exist :|

The Option does not exsit for 2DS owners when it comes out and I doubt there ever will be one.

This was the first chance Nintendo had to have a 3DS with 2 sticks in it and they blew it, and yes,

Resident Evil doesn't need the stick (it plays better without it).

Monster Hunter doesn't need it (but it plays better with it).

Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts that thing is vital.

I'm concerned by future 2DS owners who want to play those games that's all.

BTW does everyone know there's a 3DS Mini too?

3ds-mini.png

I highly doubt the intended demographic of the 2DS (i.e. six year olds who want to play Pokemon) care about two analogs, but I'm sure there'll be a CPP for it as well eventually. It took a year before the XL got its version.
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#142 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

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Go play Metal Gear 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3D and tell me it's not needed.

LegatoSkyheart

I've played Metal Gear. I've played Resident Evil. I've played Monster Hunter. Except for Metal Gear, not a single one of them made a compelling case for double analog sticks; that's a grand total of one game, two if we throw in Kingdom Hearts as well. If people want a second analog stick, the option exists. Why should Nintendo fragment the userbase even more? All of which detracts from the fact that this thing should not exist :|

The Option does not exsit for 2DS owners when it comes out and I doubt there ever will be one.

This was the first chance Nintendo had to have a 3DS with 2 sticks in it and they blew it, and yes,

Resident Evil doesn't need the stick (it plays better without it).

Monster Hunter doesn't need it (but it plays better with it).

Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts that thing is vital.

I'm concerned by future 2DS owners who want to play those games that's all.

BTW does everyone know there's a 3DS Mini too?

3ds-mini.png

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#143 R4gn4r0k
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They already have that feature I inputed it on my nephews 3DS but disabled it when he turned 7.

Edit* I might of misunderstood you I don't know if you where asking if they have that feature or not.

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Yeah I was. Thanks for clearing that upĀ :)

So now I see no reason for this to exist, as the 3D can already be turned off permanently for kids under 7.

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#144 LegatoSkyheart
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I like the fake Mini design better than this 2ds designbbkkristian

wait that was fake? Man, got fooled on that...but wait, if that was fake...but the 2DS isn't...and both were priced at $130...

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#145 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Uprising would NOT be better with a double analog stick method. An analog stick could not have duplicated the speed that the touch screen gives that game. And sure, you have a point with the other games, but that's the thing, there's no point asking for a second analog stick now, because no game would be designed around it to begin with, games would HAVE to be designed for the lowest common denominator i.e. one analog stick. Ergo, the 3DS doesn't need a second analog stick, simply because all games would STILL have to be designed with one stick in mind I hope I'm being clear :P

My hand cramped up if I tried playing Uprising with touch, so I played it with the other control scheme. I get what you're saying, but a 3D game with actual camera control being played on a system which only offers one analog ends up being more painful to play. Every 3D game I had recommended to me came with an extra "well, you have to get used to the controls", and that sure as shit isn't going to change in the future. In this regard, the Vita is absolute bliss to play on compared to the 3DS.
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#146 lilnazar
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

And are two screens really that necessary? They could've at least remove one screen so it wouldn't look this ugly. I don't see the point in having a screen for some touch features. Just do like Vita.

charizard1605
Have you... have you ever played a 3DS or any 3DS game?

Nope. But I know for a fact that one of the screen is used for touch features. Which is pointless imo.
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#147 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]I like the fake Mini design better than this 2ds designLegatoSkyheart

wait that was fake? Man, got fooled on that...but wait, if that was fake...but the 2DS isn't...and both were priced at $130...

I'm definitely sure it is, it lacks a d pad, which some games actually use.
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#148 Demonjoe93
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It almost hurts my eyes to look at! What is the point of this thing!? :?

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#149 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]I like the fake Mini design better than this 2ds designbbkkristian

wait that was fake? Man, got fooled on that...but wait, if that was fake...but the 2DS isn't...and both were priced at $130...

I'm definitely sure it is, it lacks a d pad, which some games actually use.

well, not all games, It's impossible to play Metal Gear with it, but Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem, no.

Most of the time the Dpad is just a quick tool.

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#150 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"] Have you... have you ever played a 3DS or any 3DS game?

Nope. But I know for a fact that one of the screen is used for touch features. Which is pointless imo.

The touch screen is indispensable for GAMES. it isn't just for 'touch features,' it's an integral part of every single game on the system. Removing it would make, like, half the library unplayable. [QUOTE="freedomfreak"] My hand cramped up if I tried playing Uprising with touch, so I played it with the other control scheme. I get what you're saying, but a 3D game with actual camera control being played on a system which only offers one analog ends up being more painful to play. Every 3D game I had recommended to me came with an extra "well, you have to get used to the controls", and that sure as shit isn't going to change in the future. In this regard, the Vita is absolute bliss to play on compared to the 3DS.

I didn't even know Uprising HAD a different control scheme. I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you, but it's too late for the 3DS. Maybe the successor (1DS?) will fix that, but there's no point for the 3DS. It's 30 million units too late at this point.